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Old January 16th, 2007, 09:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question about mods

My younger brother just bought a tippmann 98 custom and being the nice brother I am I gladly jumped in to help him with his gun in favor of letting me use it too. I started some of the free mods like polishing internals and replacing the springs. I replaced the sear spring with a slightly softer spring but left the trigger spring alone. I also shortened the trigger pull with a few pieces of tape on top of the trigger. Everything works great but now I can shoot very fast and sometimes the gun will shoot bursts of 3 to 5 paintballs with one trigger pull. Im not dissapointed with this I just Kinda wanna know what might be causing it.

Also what upgrades should I buy first. I already purchased a barrell from a friend. Should I next buy a double trigger, Expansion chamber, or anything else. Im really new to paintball so any suggestions are graciously accepted.
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Old January 16th, 2007, 11:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The double shooting is either the trigger being shimmed too much, or the sear spring being too light. My opinion at least.

Fiddle around with it and it should go away. If you leave it go, it won't really break anything in the gun but it might chop some paintballs in the chamber and cause a mess or jam.
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Old January 17th, 2007, 08:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If you polished the hammer the catch for the sear may have been rounded. The only way that I know of to fix this is with a square file but it makes the pull slightly longer
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Old January 18th, 2007, 01:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Depends whether you want to do milsim or speedball...
If anyone else has other items to add, or commentss, or think something should be deleted, feel free.

Milsim, you want accuracy, so a longer barrel or a flatline would be the logical first upgrade.

Then comes in the one upgrade I see the lease on the field: a red dot or laser dot. A little adjusting, then your precision becomes deadly. The last time I went to a paintball area, I was one of the 2 only players on 30 with one. It had a major effect on the other players' morale.

It might seem just for looks, but get a Rocket Cock II. It will protect your spring from direct hits, as well as splash and dirt. You don't even need to open your marker for this, although you have to replace 2 screws (that come with the cocker, so big deal)

A Remote Coil is always a good idea. I liked to have my bottle as a stock at first, but then I noticed a huge drawback when playing as a sniper: the bottle is at an angle, so if you want to aim straight, your gun has to be higher, and you need to raise your head to aim good. Having your bottle on your back lets you put that gun lower.

A Response trigger is always a good idea if you want to get your BPS (Balls Per Second) higher. If you're a manual person and like to play around with things, you have the option of purchasing the electronic trigger for the Custom Pro. It normally does not fit the 98C, but with some milling, and fitting, you can make it work.

So you can shoot faster now, but you want it a little faster and easier. A Double Trigger will do the trick if you chose a Response Trigger. I don't know if it would be of any use if you got an electronic trigger. Having the possibility to use 2 fingers to shoot instead of just your index will help you pull the trigger more often.

Then the ultimate speed adjuster: the Cyclone Feed. Gravity alone will not help bring the balls faster to the chamber, but the cyclone pushing the balls in the right direction will.

A Nitro/hpa bottle is always a good idea for someone who is serious in the game, since it will deteriorate your internals much less faster than Co2, AND it will keep a good pressure rate in cold weather if you plan on playing outside in winter.

It might seem useless, but a sling can always help depending on the field you are in. I made a custom one which cost be about 4$ to do, no sewing involved. It helps you hold your gun in case you have anything else to do (such as tying zip-ties on a PoW)
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Old January 18th, 2007, 02:42 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Sorry Cpl_Audrain I am going to pick you post to build off it with a few extra tips.


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Depends whether you want to do milsim or speedball...
If anyone else has other items to add, or commentss, or think something should be deleted, feel free.

Milsim, you want accuracy, so a longer barrel or a flatline would be the logical first upgrade.
There are three thing that you want to look at in a new barrel.
  1. Length : A 21" barrel is too long and will just waste gas. The Best length is any were from 14" to 18" and depends on how you play
  2. Coating/Finish : Different barrel manufactures have there own methods of this. The better barrels will be smooth and clean. If you look down the Barrel you should see that it's shiny with no smudges or spots. (don't do this with it on your gun) Also rifling is another thing that is done to some barrels but it does not have that big of an impact on acuracy.
  3. Bore: This is the size of the inside of the barrel and this is what matters the most. This matter because not all paint balls are 0.680" in diameter and their size will very on the weather that your playing in. And because of this most barrels bore sizes range from 0.672" up to 0.697". This is done so you can match the size of your barrel to the size of your paint. If the paint is too small for the barrel it will rattle down the barrel and not be very accurate. Now if the Paint is too big for the barrel the balls will break in the barrel.


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Then comes in the one upgrade I see the lease on the field: a red dot or laser dot. A little adjusting, then your precision becomes deadly. The last time I went to a paintball area, I was one of the 2 only players on 30 with one. It had a major effect on the other players' morale.
Another reason for this is a paint ball will not follow a sraight path like a rifle round. And if they get hit they are a pain to clean.

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It might seem just for looks, but get a Rocket Cock II. It will protect your spring from direct hits, as well as splash and dirt. You don't even need to open your marker for this, although you have to replace 2 screws (that come with the cocker, so big deal)
This is mostly a cosmetic upgrade in my book, If you shoot with your right hand most of the shots that would have hit that part of the gun are taken by your back or your left side

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A Remote Coil is always a good idea. I liked to have my bottle as a stock at first, but then I noticed a huge drawback when playing as a sniper: the bottle is at an angle, so if you want to aim straight, your gun has to be higher, and you need to raise your head to aim good. Having your bottle on your back lets you put that gun lower.
This is a good investment if your going to stick with Co2. But you lose the ablity to use the tank as a stock (not a problem if you got a stock). Another problem is the the remote line tends to get tangled up in bushes and makes it harder to change hand when shooting. One last problem is you will inevitably pull the gun off the table because you for got about the remote.

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A Response trigger is always a good idea if you want to get your BPS (Balls Per Second) higher. If you're a manual person and like to play around with things, you have the option of purchasing the electronic trigger for the Custom Pro. It normally does not fit the 98C, but with some milling, and fitting, you can make it work.
The older 98s will not take the new board even with milling because of how the sear spring is setup. In most of the New ones they will take the newboard

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Then the ultimate speed adjuster: the Cyclone Feed. Gravity alone will not help bring the balls faster to the chamber, but the cyclone pushing the balls in the right direction will.

A Nitro/hpa bottle is always a good idea for someone who is serious in the game, since it will deteriorate your internals much less faster than Co2, AND it will keep a good pressure rate in cold weather if you plan on playing outside in winter.
A revvy of a Evultion 2 would be good for a 98. And you can never go wrong with HPA
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Old January 18th, 2007, 10:26 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the great info guys. Its a big help to somebody who is new to the game like myself.
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Old March 1st, 2007, 06:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'd put the stock sear spring back in. If you haven't already, do the pen spring mod.
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