Originally Posted by SABRE
Well first off Tippmanns are great guns. The A-5 is a great gun. It's reliable and shoots great. The people giving this a bad rep are the ones with high end electros (or the wanabees who say they have high end electros on the internet which then grants them the title of paintball master empowering them to say good guns suck, like the A-5) If legit people say it sucks it's because it doesn't shoot as good as their electro. The cool thing about the A-5's cyclone feed system is that it used your CO2 to agitate the balls in the cyclone hopper (I think it comes stock) and there for you can achieve 10-12 bps with a response trigger. And I've unloaded with one of those (/w RT) and didn't chop a single ball. So yes, they are great guns. Not exactly tourney guns, but great starters (or second guns) and it will last! That's another thing about those Tippmanns.
why on earth should people who own a high end marker rag on the a5 simply because its a more entry level marker? yes i own a high end electo but no im not going to rag on it because its a entry level marker, however i am going to rag on it for its poor value/design if you compare price vs preformance on this marker while also looking at the rest of the market you will see that you really dont get what you pay for. there are much better deals out there, for example the spyder vs1. it still works on co2, fires faster, is lighter, smaller and is much easier to work on. which brings me to my next poing, the disign, the stamped metal design that tippmann uses is only used for one reason....its cheap, they can make it very easily with a press, but actually doing maintainance on the marker is a huge pain because you basically have to do a full disasembly whenever you need to get at anything on the inside. the cyclone is not that great of an invention. granted in stock trim it works well as long as you have some paint with a thick shell in it. but when you start getting into higher rates of fire (modding the marker), it just turns into a blender attachment for the marker. the technology in the a5 is the same as the 98, really the a5 is nothing more than a 98 with the cyclone and a special hopper
although granted it does work well for a milsim marker, its got the right look to it. but if your buying a marker for preformance there are much better deals out there.
Tippmann kinda survives on new players, they take their money and give them a product that isnt all that its hyped up to be, lets look at the two "preformence" barrels they make for example, first, the flatline, it is advertised as giving you longer ranges so you can hit your oponants while they can not hit you. while also making the ball fly straight. while the ball does fly straight and go further, your range is not affected, this is because as the ball travels out past the range of any other marker/barrel combo, it is flying so slowly due to the backspin the barrel puts on it that it will not break on anyone. (i am saying this from personal experience btw) so what is the point of the "etra range" if you cant get anyone out? and second the newly released "straightline" this barrell promises amazing accuracy through the use of rifeling, something the experienced player knows does nothing in the paintball world. although i will give tippmann some credit for this barrell, they gave it a few different sized backs. so if the player uses the backs properly, they will get better accuracy out of this barrel but it is not from the rifeling as promised.
now onto the good parts of tippmann (i dont just dislike them for no reason) they are durable, although the reliability has fallen off a bit in these last few years due to small changes, you can make the marker look however you want it to (although it does cost a lot). u can buy used ones for very cheap and this is offten the best way to go.
Originally Posted by Crawdaddy
They aren't as bad as Tippmann haters make them out to be but they aren't half as good as Tippmann fans would have you believe.
thats one of the best ways iv heard it put