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Old March 13th, 2010, 03:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Please Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey guys I am on the fence about getting a tippman 98c or A-5 what do you think?
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Old March 17th, 2010, 10:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The A5 is nicer and has more upgrades. Especially aesthetic upgrades.

Make sure you look long and hard where to get one for cheapest I got a brand new one from some ebay store for $140.
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Old March 19th, 2010, 11:39 AM   #3 (permalink)
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ok, I'm geudaing your pretty young by the amount of exclamation marks you have. I would recommend a spyder over both.
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Old March 19th, 2010, 12:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Indeed

If going mech, get a Spyder
Cheaper, just as reliable, easier to work on, lighter, etc.
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Old April 1st, 2010, 09:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If youŕe playing woodsball get the tippmann!

If youŕe playing Halo get the spyder!
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Old April 1st, 2010, 09:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'd like to respectfully disagree with that
The Spyder is better for a number of reasons

1. It's cheaper and shoots the same as the Tippmann
2. It's smaller and lighter than the Tippmann, making it more maneuverable in both woodsball and speedball
3. After Tippmann sold themselves to China, their QC and build materials went down the drain, parts would break and not function properly

This leads me to recommend Spyder over Tippmann
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Old April 2nd, 2010, 04:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
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And I didn't know we could use paintball markers in Halo.
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Old April 2nd, 2010, 04:49 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Spyder>Tippmann. Azn said enough to prove this, yet ill add. Spyders only break due to malpractice.
IE: Its the users fault somehow. At least you dont have to worry about parts breaking and not being reliable.
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Old May 12th, 2010, 02:54 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I have to say, I do have a good bit a money tied up in my a5, but that doesn't matter for this particular discussion. I have never had any problems with anything breaking on it unless i did it. I have only had one board burn up and tippmann gladly replaced it and sent me an upgrade and it has been great ever since.

If your looking for cheaper$$$ and lighter. Go with the spyder. If you want something that seems to feel more durable, go with the tippmann. I have owned a couple of spyders and they worked well for me any scenario just as my a5. It's all in how much money you want to spend and how much you want to carry around. In my own opinion you can make any gun reliable and ready to use in any scenario as long as you want to spend a little extra cash and as long as you are willing to take care of what you get. Good luck to ya..
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If you want something that seems to feel more durable, go with the tippmann..
im a little confused at this, are you saying it seems more reliable but isnt or that we should go out on the field with whatever "feels" like its not going to break, because unless im missing something i sure cant pick up a marker and tell if its going to break or not, but then again, a brick "feels" reliable, maybe ill just go out with that next time

azn hit the nail on the head, you spend less and get more with a spyder

if the choices were only a5 and 98, its 98 all the way, the a5 is just a 98 with a blender, i mean feeder on the side
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im a little confused at this, are you saying it seems more reliable but isnt or that we should go out on the field with whatever "feels" like its not going to break, because unless im missing something i sure cant pick up a marker and tell if its going to break or not, but then again, a brick "feels" reliable, maybe ill just go out with that next time

azn hit the nail on the head, you spend less and get more with a spyder

if the choices were only a5 and 98, its 98 all the way, the a5 is just a 98 with a blender, i mean feeder on the side
Reliable wasn't ment to say that you should pick up a brick and take it to the field and hope to get some paint through it. I just wanted to make it clear that all tippmanns aren't going to break out of the box or break just for any reason. That can happen with any gun. You keep a marker in good working condition and it will most likely be a very reliable one. I have had spyder and tippmann products and both are/where very reliable guns. Both worked all the time, when I needed them. If anything every broke it was my own fault, except for the board. Just because tippmann moved there build materials and QC to another country doesn't mean that it is going to fall apart and everything is going to go down the drain, because of it. Parts failure is going to happen to all makes no matter where they are built at some point in time. If this was a big enough problem tippmann would be out of business instead of selling.

And before I am asked about "durable". I just prefer something that is a little heavier(Not a brick). I feel like it's going to break in my hands if it doesn't have a little weight to it. It just feels to me that if I fall and my marker bounces of the ground I won't have to pick up the pieces. And so far I haven't. I'm not saying that a spyder or any other make will. I'm just saying that is what I like.

I understand that a stock spyder is the way to go as far as speed, weight and money. You can play any game, anywhere. Bone stock. Woods or field. I just prefer my a5. It is a little heavy, but nothing I can't handle. And with a few mods it's up to par for any situation. I can go to the woods, battle field or on the speed ball field. It doesn't matter. No you wouldn't want to do that with a stock a5, but that is the way I went, because it was cheaper for me. A cheap gun + a few upgrades and I'm ready for anything. But the thread was started to ask what gun was better 98 or a5? Noone asked about a spyder, it was just mentioned. So for whom ever started the thread the only thing they are wondering is a 98 or an A5. And I choose the A5 with the blender on the side. Mine hasn't failed me yet.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 11:19 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Just because tippmann moved there build materials and QC to another country doesn't mean that it is going to fall apart and everything is going to go down the drain, because of it. Parts failure is going to happen to all makes no matter where they are built at some point in time. If this was a big enough problem tippmann would be out of business instead of selling.

i never said they will fall apart, they are not BE bad but they are definatly not what they used to be ever since they outsorced production to China, sears go much faster, power tubes crack all the time, buddy of mine actually had the clamshell warp a bit causing about a years worth of problems before he figured it out (nobody had ever heard of the body warping before so nobody could tell him what was wrong) but unfortunatly because they were such reliable tanks for so long people just think that that is what they still are. another thing that has always perplexed me is if they moved production to china to cut costs and are also using cheaper materials now, why on earth has the consumer not seen a price savings?
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another thing that has always perplexed me is if they moved production to china to cut costs and are also using cheaper materials now, why on earth has the consumer not seen a price savings?
To increase their margins? They aren't a charity and need to make money to stay in business that is kinda the whole idea. I'd also argue that the price of Tippmanns has come down a bit Action Village has a basic 98C at $119 and that is about the same price as a basic mech Spyder. Factor in that Action Village adds their cut on top of the price and Tippmann can't be making a pile of cash selling 98Cs.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 11:53 AM   #14 (permalink)
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well they dont need to anymore, they also have the a5 and phenom to sell remember, yes i agree that they still need to be making something of a profit in order to sell the thing but its not their cash cow that it used to be
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Is it just me or is it that everybody who likes Tippmann says they like the weight of it, after we mention the weight as a con?
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classic denial

either that or sheer ignorance of just how much the weight can change how you play
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Old May 28th, 2010, 12:03 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I would suggest getting an A-5 because, nothing against the 98 custom (i have one) its a good gun, but eventually your going to want to upgrade to an A-5 or higher if you liked the Tippmann brand. So if you just purchase an A-5, you should be fine, becuase it's not like its a ridiculous amount of more money. I would recommend saving your money for an A-5, because it is a better gun in the long run.
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Old May 28th, 2010, 11:34 AM   #18 (permalink)
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but its not an upgrade from the 98 thats the problem, basically the a5 is a 98 with a blender on the side and a different body so why pay more for a marker they will be less efficient and no performance gain?
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