i kinda skimmed through the posts so idk if its already said but i bought an extreme rage hopper at a sporting goods store and it was like 25-30 bucks and it spits the balls out pretty quick too for its price. its no halo and defiantly no dye but it does its job and its electric and has a spinning rotor which has speed settings, its cheap, it works, and it kinda (JUST BARLEY KINDA) looks like a halo...at least some of the older ones... anyway the hoppers decent, i myself just got a dye rotor and WOW that thing smokes all as far as i know but like stated, and as you know its $200. money well spent but we all dont have $200 laying around to buy things we can buy for like $50-100 that so sorta the same thing. if your doing like shoot em up in your friends backyard or in a Forrest or if you go to paintball places i recommend it but dont count on doing any sneaking missions because the rotor is always on. and its pretty loud, however you can turn it off and it still functions like a standard gravity loader, but better, i think the mouth is wider. plus if your not paint balling everyweekend its basically the best you could buy, have money left over then save for a better one, if you think you need it, and replace that one, you have to walk before you can run, but running gets you there faster.